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Savor the flavor

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S1E10 Mac & Cheese, Mother Sauces & Failure as Fuel

Buckle up, chefs—this one’s packed with wisdom and flavor!

In this milestone episode of The IncrEDIBLE Discourse, Chef Mark Grigsby takes us on a culinary journey through the history and evolution of Mac & Cheese, breaking down its origins, technique, and how to elevate it beyond the boxed version. We then shift gears to one of the most foundational topics in cooking—the Mother Sauces—learning how they act as building blocks for countless recipes. Finally, Mark shares an inspiring discussion on failure, why it’s an essential part of growth, and how to use setbacks to fuel success in the kitchen (and in life).

Key Takeaways

Mac & Cheese Like a Pro: Learn how to make a creamy, dreamy baked cavatappi mac & cheese with cheddar-gruyere mornay sauce and savory bread crumbs. Plus, the secret weapon for silky cheese sauces—sodium citrate!  


Mother Sauces Matter: Discover the five essential Mother Sauces (Béchamel, Velouté, Espagnole, Tomato, and Hollandaise) and why they’re the backbone of professional cooking. Mastering them means unlocking dozens of "daughter sauces" for next-level flavors. 


Failing Forward: The road to culinary greatness is paved with failures. Learn how setbacks teach technique, build resilience, spark creativity, and reinforce passion. From a failed dish to a new invention—embrace mistakes and keep pushing forward!  


Question for You: What’s your favorite way to elevate Mac & Cheese? Drop your best variations here!

Timestamps

  • 00:30 – Welcome & Why Episode 10 is a Big Deal   
  • 02:30 – The Evolution of Mac & Cheese: From Italy to Kraft   
  • 07:49 – Recipe Breakdown: Baked Cavatappi Mac & Cheese   
  • 20:48 – Mother Sauces 101: The Foundation of Flavor   
  • 31:18 – Failure as a Fuel: Why Every Great Chef Embraces Mistakes   
  • 37:27 – Final Thoughts & Call to Action

Links & Resources

Equipment List:

  • 4 quart Saucepan (2x) https://a.co/d/dyfUyUy
  • Colander https://a.co/d/eygw8AS
  • Whisk https://a.co/d/6SuQV7F
  • Wooden Spoon https://a.co/d/d1cpsqI
  • Measuring Set https://amzn.to/4287rMp
  • Cheese Grater https://amzn.to/43FrSBd
  • 2 quart Casserole Dish https://amzn.to/41FPZxW
  • 8oz Ladle https://amzn.to/40LH4ta
  • High Heat Spatula https://amzn.to/4hjoYGc
  • 7 inch Fry Pan https://amzn.to/3XsGobp


 Full recipe & blog here! 

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Stay hungry. Keep cooking. Never stop learning.

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